Gottbegriff und das Milgram Experiment ....

Geschrieben von offthspc am 10. März 2004 14:23:45:

Als Antwort auf: @ Epidophekles Gott im Wort geschrieben von Sylvie am 10. März 2004 10:23:56:

Folgender Text ist etwas zum Nachdenken .....

The Milgram Experiment
A lesson in depravity, peer pressure, and the power of authority

The aftermath of the Holocaust and the events leading up to World War II, the world was stunned with the happenings in Nazi German and their acquired surrounding territories that came out during the Eichmann Trials. Eichmann, a high ranking official of the Nazi Party, was on trial for war crimes and crimes against humanity. The questions is, "Could it be that Eichmann, and his million accomplices in the Holocaust were just following orders? Could we call them all accomplices?"

Stanley Milgram answered the call to this problem by performing a series of studies on the Obedience to Authority. Milgram's work began at Harvard where he was working towards his Ph.D. The experiments on which his initial research was based were done at Yale from 1961-1962.

In response to a newspaper ad offering $4.50 for one hour's work, an individual turns up to take part in a Psychology experiment investigating memory and learning. He is introduced to a stern looking experimenter in a white coat and a rather pleasant and friendly co-subject. The experimenter explains that the experiment will look into the role of punishment in learning, and that one will be the "teacher" and one will be the "learner." Lots are drawn to determine roles, and it is decided that the individual who answered the ad will become the "teacher."

Your co-subject is taken to a room where he is strapped in a chair to prevent movement and an electrode is placed on his arm. Next, the "teacher" is taken to an adjoining room which contains a generator. The "teacher" is instructed to read a list of two word pairs and ask the "learner" to read them back. If the "learner" gets the answer correct, then they move on to the next word. If the answer is incorrect, the "teacher" is supposed to shock the "learner" starting at 15 volts.

The generator has 30 switches in 15 volt increments, each is labeled with a voltage ranging from 15 up to 450 volts. Each switch also has a rating, ranging from "slight shock" to "danger: severe shock". The final two switches are labeled "XXX". The "teacher" automatically is supposed to increase the shock each time the "learner" misses a word in the list. Although the "teacher" thought that he/she was administering shocks to the "learner", the "learner" is actually a student or an actor who is never actually harmed. (The drawing of lots was rigged, so that the actor would always end up as the "learner.")

At times, the worried "teachers" questioned the experimenter, asking WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE for any harmful effects resulting from shocking the learner at such a high level. Upon RECEIVING THE ANSWER THAT THE EXPERIMENTER ASSUMED FULL RESPONSIBILITY, teachers seemed to accept the response and continue shocking, even though some were obviously extremely uncomfortable in doing so.

*Großschreibung ist meine Anmerkung !*

Today the field of psychology would deem this study highly unethical but, it revealed some extremely important findings. The theory that only the most severe monsters on the sadistic fringe of society would submit to such cruelty is disclaimed. Findings show that, "two-thirds of this studies participants fall into the category of ‘obedient' subjects, and that they represent ordinary people drawn from the working, managerial, and professional classes (Obedience to Authority)." Ultimately 65% of all of the "teachers" punished the "learners" to the maximum 450 volts. No subject stopped before reaching 300 volts!

Milgram also conducted several follow-up experiments to determine what might change the likelihood of maximum shock delivery. In one condition, the touch-proximity condition, the teacher was required to hold the hand of the learner on a "shock plate" in order to give him shocks above 150 volts.

Milgram's obedience experiment was replicated by other researchers. The experiments spanned a 25-year period from 1961 to 1985 and have been repeated in Australia, South Africa and in several European countries. In one study conducted in Germany, over 85% of the subjects administered a lethal electric shock to the learner!


Zusammenfassung:

Der Leiter des Experiments erklärt sich VOLL VERANTWORTLICH für die FOLGEN des Experiments.
Worauf die Knopfdrücker keine Hemmungen mehr hatten bis ans "Limit" zu gehen.

Waren sie doch nicht mehr verantwortlich und haben "nur" Befehle ausgeführt.

So "mental entlastet" kann man dann leicht Fremdrassige, Ungläubige, etc.abschlachten...

Und wenn man sich dann nicht nur auf einen menschlichen Vorgesetzten sondern sogar auf "die Höchste Instanz" selbst berufen kann .......

Dann schläft es sich viel leichter, winken doch "99 Jungfrauen" oder das "ewige Leben"

Das Herabsetzen des (vermeintlichen) Gegners auf den Status eines "Tieres" (J...sch.., Hundesöhne, "unwertes" Leben) erleichtert das Aufheben der angeborenen! menschlichen Tötungssperre.


Ist doch praktisch für jeden Machthaber ..
Wurden doch z.B. im WK II an der Ostfront die Panzer links der Front von kath. Pfarrern "gesegnet" während zeitgleich rechts der Front die orthodoxen Pfarrer diese Aufgabe übernahmen.
Und ALLE haben sich auf Gott berufen !

Selbst "Genosse Stalin" den man wohl kaum als Kirchenfreund bezeichnen kann hat die "Kampfwertsteigerung" der "Gesegneten" erkannt und "Segnungen" aller Art sogar ausdrücklich von der Orthodoxen Kirche eingefordert.

Eine Bitte noch:

Bei Antworten bitte sachlich bleiben.
Es geht hier nicht um die Existenz Gottes (das muß jeder für sich selbst entscheiden) sondern um den Zusammenhang von "Verantwortung abschieben" und
"Religion"

mfG
offthspc





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