Zum Status von Garabandal in der katholischen Kirche
Geschrieben von Zetountis am 19. März 2003 20:07:50:
Als Antwort auf: @Zwobbel - Garabandal geschrieben von Mirans am 19. März 2003 18:04:23:
Guten Abend, Mirans,
zu Garabandal möchte ich bemerken, dass die Erscheinungen nach dem Urteil des zuständigen Ortsbischofs von Santander und seines Nachfolgers nicht übernatürlichen Ursprungs sind. Der Vatikan hat dieses bischöfliche Urteil bestätigt.
Es ist Dir natürlich unbenommen, welche Stellung Du dazu einnimmst, aber in der römisch-katholischen Kirche, wo sich die Phänomene von Garabandal ereignet haben, haben sie nicht den Status anerkannter Erscheinungen.
Gruß,
Gunther.
Garabandal 1962
The church’s position on garabandal:
v An initial evaluation in 1961 concluded that there was no proof that the apparitions, visions, locutions or revelations were authentic. It went on to say that nothing deserving of eccesiastical censure or condemnation in doctrine or recommendations has been found either.
v After being asked for the status of the Garabandal Visions by Bishop Hannan of New Orleans, In 1970 Cardinal Seper Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) stated “There is no truth to the statement that the Holy See has named an Official Papal Private Investigator of Garabandal and affirmations attributed to the anonymous personage to the extent that the verification of the Garabandal apparitions lies completely in the hands of the Holy Father Pope Paul VI and other such expressions that aim at undermining the authority of the decisions of the Bishop of Santander are completely unfounde… In order to reply to certain doubts that you expressed in your letter this Sacred Congregation wishes to assert: that the Holy See has never approved even indirectly the Garabandal movement, that it has never encouraged or blessed Garabandal promoters or centers. Rather the Holy See deplores that fact that certain persons and Institutions persist in formatting the movement in obvious contradiction with the dispositions of ecclesiastical authority and thus disseminate confusion among the people especially among the simple and defenseless.".”
v In 1986 a new commission was appointed by Bishop del Val of Santander to re-evaluate the events at Garabandal and by 1987 the Bishop had given permission for visiting priests to celebrate mass in the local church which had been restricted since 1962.
v The results of the studies of the commission were forwarded to the vatican for analysis and in 1991 it was concluded in aggreement with the original evaluation in 1961 that there was no supernatural origin for the visions.
v On October 11, 1996, the present Bishop of Santander - Jose Vilaplana - , wrote the following: "All the bishops of the diocese since 1961 through 1970 agreed that there was no supernatural validity for the apparitions. In the month of December of 1977 Bishop Dal Val of Santander, in union with his predecessors, stated that in the six years of being bishop of Santander there were no new phenomena. The same bishop, Dal Val, let a few years go by to allow the confusion or fanaticism to settle down, and then he initiated a commission to examine the apparitions in more depth. The conclusion of the commission agreed with the findings of the previous bishops that there was no supernatural validity to such apparitions. At the time of the conclusions of the study, in 1991, I was installed bishop in the diocese. So during my visit to Rome, ad limina visit which happened in the same year, I presented to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith the study and I asked for pastoral direction concerning this case. On Nov. 28, 1992, the Congregation sent me an answer saying that after examining the documentation, there was no need for direct intervention (by the Vatican) to take away the jurisdiction of the ordinary bishop of Santander in this case. Such a right belongs to the ordinary. Previous declarations of the Holy See agree in this finding. In the same letter they suggested that if I find it necessary to publish a declaration, that I reconfirm that there was no supernatural validity in the alleged apparitions, and this will make a unanimous position with my predecessors."
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