Re: Ein kleines Puzzlestück zu Quatrain X/72 und astronomische Erstaunlichkeiten

Geschrieben von BBouvier am 03. März 2003 14:13:58:

Als Antwort auf: Ein kleines Puzzlestück zu Quatrain X/72 und astronomische Erstaunlichkeiten geschrieben von mica am 03. März 2003 08:19:23:

Liebe Mica!

Sehr sehr interessant, was Du da aufgestöbert hast! Ganz herzlichen Dank.
Weisst Du, es ist ja niemandem so recht klar, weshalb "1999" (FALLS das überhaupt so heisst!) falsch gewesen ist.
Mit 1792 lag Nossi ja völlig korrekt,(Ermordung des Königs) und er nennt für 1789 sogar den 14. Juli!
Manche meinen, hier habe er sich hier schlicht geirrt, andere, es muss sich noch erst herausstellen, wer z. B. da geboren worden ist, und was dergleichen Spekulationen mehr sein mögen.
Nur eines scheint mir sicher: "Angoulmois" hat nun mit Mongolen gar nichts zu tun, es ist schlicht nur das, was es ist, nämlich Angoulmois, und das ist eine Landschaft in Frankreich.
Da wird nur deshalb soviel hieingeheimnist, weil sowas ein Ami einfach nicht weiss.
Genau wie Franzosen noch nie was von der Magdeburger Börde gehört haben.
Da würde dann wohl von einem Negerhäupling von Madagaskar gefaselt.

Herzliche Grüsse,Dein

BB

>Hallo BB (?) und andere Nosti-Freunde!
>Ich bin ja eine völlige Niete, was den Meister anbelangt; hier aber eine (astronomische) Deutung anderer Art des Verses X/72.
>Es geht um die Präzession des Kreuz des Südens, das um Christi Geburt(4.v.Chr.) das letzte Mal(2 n. Chr.) für 23 670 Jahre am nördlichen Himmel stand.
>Nostradamus verwendete diesen Zeitpunkt womöglich als Ausgangspunkt für seine Berechnungen.
>Zuvor eine kurze Einführung in die Bedeutung(in alter Zeit) des Kreuzes des Südens, als Masstab für die Präzession:
>Since the Southern Cross is now a southern hemisphere constellation, we do not realize that it was visible on the southern horizon above the 30 degrees north latitude line for most of the precessional epoch of Aries. The Greeks, who were too far north to appreciate it clearly, considered it as part of the constellation Centarus and only learned of its importance, and the idea of precession itself, from the Egyptians. As the epoch of Aries drew to a close, it was obvious that the Cross was leaving the northern hemisphere for another 23,760 years. Thus the Southern Cross is the “essential cross (which) salutes the measure of the 12th part,” or the one precessional epoch of 2,160 years out the twelve epochs of the complete precessional year, 25,920 years, when it is visible above 30 degrees north latitude.
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>That the essential Cross in the sky, the cosmic precessional marker, should be disappearing at this particular moment might just be the inspiration for the idea of the messiah, or cosmic redeemer, that was so prevalent in the cultures of the region in the early 1st century CE. The story of the magi told in Matthew’s Gospel supports this theory. A group of Zoroastrian magi, possibly from the Iranian highlands north of Tabriz, followed a “star” to the south/southwest to the town of Bethlehem southwest of Jerusalem. The nature of this star has occasioned much speculation, but the obvious conclusion, that the magi were following the setting of the Southern Cross, seems never before to have been suggested.
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>The line from Tabriz to Jerusalem and Bethlehem matches the line of the rising Southern Cross at that period. It also stretches beyond Bethlehem to Cario and the Giza Plateau and its monuments. It is possible that this is the reason why Matthew’s Gospel insists that after the visit of the magi, the Holy Family fled along the rising Southern Cross line to Egypt. Coptic tradition tells us that the Holy Family stayed in Egypt for six years. If we assume that the nativity of the messiah was in September of 4 BCE, when the Southern Cross was setting on the Cairo/Jerusalem/Tabriz line, then the Holy Family left Egypt and returned to Jerusalem in the winter of 2 CE. As a further confirmation of the connection with the Southern Cross, this was the moment when the Southern Cross was visible for the last at the latitude of Jerusalem. It set in mid February, never again, or least for a very long time, 23,760 years, to return and stand complete and upright on the southern horizon.
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>Even though this connection has never been openly commented on, it apparently survived as part of the esoteric tradition of the west. Curiously enough, it is Michel Nostredame, the 16th century Seer of Provence, who provides evidence of this survival. In quatrain 10/72 (the quatrain number itself suggests a precessional meaning, as it takes 72 years for the sun to precess one degree along the ecliptic) Nostradamus tells us that 1999 years and seven months after a certain point in time, a great Mongol king of terror will be seen in the sky. Since July of 1999 passed without incident, we can be sure that Nostradamus wasn’t counting according to Dennis the Short’s reworked calendar.
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>However, the attack on the World Trade Center Towers on September 11, 2001 does seem to match the idea of an eastern King of Terror, Osama bin Laden, planning an attack from Afghanistan, an ancient Mongol/Mogul stronghold. Only the date is two years off. Perhaps Nostradamus was counting from the last time The Southern Cross appeared as a complete constellation in February of 2 CE. That would indeed be almost exactly 1999 years and seven months later. By dating this pivotal event in this way, Nostradamus reveals the hidden significance of the Southern Cross as a precessional marker.
>Der Text ist einer umfassenden Interpretation des Werkes von Fulcanelli entnommen, einem Alchemisten und Mystiker, der vielleicht in der selben Gegend wie Nostradamus lebte(allerdings in unserem Jahrhundert).
>In seinem Werk "The Final Revelation", der französischsprachige Titel ist mir momentan nicht zur Hand, geht es um Berechnungen von Fixpunkten am Himmel zur Zeit der Tagundnachtgleiche im Herbst 2002. Für Fulcanelli markiert sie den Höhepunkt, das Mittel, zwischen 1992 und 2012 einen Zeitpunkt zu dem die großen Veränderungen massiv losbrechen würden. Wie auch immer, auf den Tag exakte Ereignisse werden sich nicht ableiten lassen, sehr wohl aber eine gewisse Tendenz zur Steigerung.
>Hier ein kleiner Auszug über das Große Kreuz zum Herbst 2002 und dessen astronomische Komponenten Merkur und Mars, Venus und Jupiter - und deren Symbolik, die mit INRI verknüpft ist:
>At first it seemed strange that Fulcanelli should apply this very Christian symbol of the crucifixion to the four world ages and specifically to the Day of Judgment. But as we discovered in the course of researching A Monument to the End of Time, Christianity is a religion based on the Gnostic idea of a final judgment and the restoration of the harmony between heaven and earth. The symbol of this harmony is the descent of the New Jerusalem cube at the end of time. Fulcanelli seems to be telling us that when the INRI that hung above the crucified Jesus appears in the sky, then Judgment Day is at hand. Therefore, the INRI in the sky is somehow connected to the creation and alignment of the New Jerusalem Cube of Space.
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>Traditionally, alchemists have used these letters with various esoteric meanings. In Monument, we cite three of the most significant, Igne Natura Renovatur Integra, or By Fire is the whole of nature renewed, Igne Nitrium Raris Invenitum, The Shining is rarely found in fire, and Isis Naturea Regina Ineffabilis, Isis the Ineffable Queen of Nature. The orthodox, exoteric Christian meaning is Iesus Nazerenus Rex Iudeorum, or Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews, and its appearance on the crucifixion cross is usually understood as an indication of his divine status as Son of God and the Hebrew Messiah. What it suggests to someone of an esoteric perspective is that Jesus was crucified on the Cross of the four elements. In Hebrew, the first letters of the names of the elements spell out INRI – Yam/water/I, Nour/fire/N, Ruach/air/R, and Yebeshas/earth/I. The Kabbalist would also see that Yod/Nun/Resh/Yod, or 10/50/200/10, adds up to 270.
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>Now this is so curious as to be shocking. The letters and their gematria, the number 270, link all of the above alchemical, Egyptian and Christian interpretations. This is a key number in the precessional sequence (270 x 8 = 2160, one of twelve zodiacal ages in the Great Year of Precession, 12 x 2160 = 25,920 years), and its use as a mystical symbol for the Son of the Hebrew God, YHVH, begins to make a kind of cosmo-mythic sense. The gematria of YHVH, Y/10, H/5, V/6, H/5, equals 26, the closest whole number factor to the years in the Great Year, 26,000. The Son of God would therefore mean the specific INRI of 270 years out of the 26,000 years of the Great Year of IHVH, when the Cube of Space returns for the Day of Judgment.
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>Since other clues on the monument pointed to the 20.5 years between solstices as the season of catastrophe Fulcanelli described, with the fall equinox of 2002 as the zenith or mid-point of that arc, then we could expect to find the INRI of the Day of Judgment/Cube of Space alignment in the sky. And indeed, just as Fulcanelli suggested, the INRI appears in the sky on the equinox dawn.
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>Hoffe wohl, nichts vergessen zu haben, was den Zusammenhang verschleiern könnte und möchte auch auf Weiterführendes z.B. das "Monument von Hendaye" hinweisen.
>Herzliche Grüße
>mica
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