> # Re: @detlef: Neue große US Militärbasis in Nordost-Paraguay?

> Geschrieben von detlef am 12. August 2005 17:40:13:

> Als Antwort auf: @detlef: Neue große US Militärbasis in Nordost-Paraguay? geschrieben von IT Oma am 12. August 2005 11:25:26:

> >Hallo detlef,
> >habe hier zwei Nachrichten gefunden, die vom Aufbau einer großen US Militärbasis in Nordost-Paraguay sprechen. Hast Du schon davon gehört?

> ja, habe auch schon in einem der foren kurz dazu geschrieben.

> http://f27.parsimony.net/forum67590/messages/13349.htm

> >

> > According to an article in the Bolivian newspaper, El Deber, a U.S. base is being developed in Mariscal Estigarribia, Paraguay, 200 kilometers from the border with Bolivia. The base will permit the landing of large aircraft and is capable of housing up to 16,000 troops. A contingent of 500 U.S. troops arrived in Paraguay on July 1st with planes, weapons, equipment and ammunition. (1)

> > dieser flugplatz existierte schon zu zeiten unseres guten diktators alfred stroessner. der schwiegervater von stroessners sohn, general rodriguez, (rauschgifthaendler und fuehrer der militaers, die stroessner in der revolution besiegten)war praesident, als die amerikaner den flugplatz asfaltierten und auf groessenordnung eines internationalen flugplatzes brachten.

> > >On May 26, 2005 the Paraguayan senate approved the entrance of the troops, granting them total immunity, free from Paraguayan and International Criminal Court jurisdiction. The legislature is due to expire in December 2006, but is automatically extendable. Since December 2004, the U.S. has been pressuring Peru, Ecuador, Venezuela and Paraguay into signing a deal which would grant immunity to U.S. military. The Bush administration threatened to deny the countries up to $24.5 million in economic and military aid if they refused to sign the deal. Paraguay was the only country to accept the offer. (2)

> > ja, so was kommt vor. wer die macht hat...

> >http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0804-08.htm und
> >http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=20&ItemID=8436
> >Gruß
> >ITOma

> Rivarola said that the United States is keeping a particularly close eye on the tri-border area where Paraguay, Argentina and Brazil meet. The region is home to a large Arab community, which various intelligence services have identified as a source of financing and shelter for Islamic fundamentalist groups.

> There has yet to be any solid proof put forward of activities of this kind in the area, which is however well-known as a hotspot for arms trafficking and the smuggling of counterfeit goods that primarily end up in Brazil.

> totaler quatsch!

> die zone befindet sich am anderen ende des landes, vom flugplatz aus gesehen. da wurschteln alle arten von rauschgift gangs und schmugglern seit jahrzehnten. auch araber, und die "handelsabteilung" eines bekannten nachrichtendienstes aus dem norden zi ei ey
> da haben die brueder so viel "ziviles" personal, dass sie keine armee brauchen.

> Rivarola noted that the attention of international intelligence services is mainly focused on the Paraguayan side of the triple border, because Paraguay is considered ”the most easily pressured country in Mercosur,” or the Southern Common Market trade bloc, whose other full members are Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay.

> stimmt. wir sind das aermste land.

> But after the 2004 kidnapping and subsequent murder of Cecilia Cubas, the daughter of former president Raúl Cubas (1998-1999), and the botched investigation of the crime, Vice President Luis Castiglioni began to forge closer ties with the U.S. government.

> quatsch! die entfuehrung und mord der tochter des letzten wirklich demokratisch gewaehlten praesidenten (der in einem umsturz entmachtet wurde) wird von der regierungspartei den sozialisten/kommunisten zur last gelegt. von vielen buergern wird die entfuehrung der regierungspartei zur last gelegt.

> The first joint military exercises include plans for humanitarian medical assistance for ”hundreds or thousands” of peasant farmers and other people in need in the central and northern departments (provinces) of Canindeyú, Caazapá and Ñeembucú, stated the U.S. communiqué.

> das sind alles departamentos im osten. die frueher auch schon solche hilfen bekamen, von us truppen, die ueber die hauptstadt anreisten.

> The statement also denied that the United States had any interest in the Guaraní aquifer except that this resource may serve to increase the prosperity and well-being of people in this region.

> na ja, man muss ja vorplanen. nach den oelkriegen kommen die wasserkriege... (meine persoenliche meinung)

> The Guaraní aquifer is one of the world's largest reserves of fresh water, covering an area of 1.2 million square kilometres in South America. An estimated 70 percent of it is located in Brazil, 19 percent in Argentina, six percent in Paraguay and five percent in Uruguay.

> und die anderen sind stark genug, keine besatzer reinzulassen.

> The aquifer has attracted the interest of several international organisations, and according to civil society groups it holds a special interest for the United States, as a source of what will soon be a scarce resource.

> In December, the United States cancelled 330 million dollars in economic aid to some 10 countries, including Ecuador, Paraguay, Peru, Uruguay and Venezuela, because they refused to sign bilateral agreements that would ensure U.S. troops and other citizens immunity from prosecution by the International Criminal Court.

> ja, das haben wir gespuert. die folge war eine hinwendung der zone zu europa und zum euro...
> das wird natuerlich mit den neuesten nachrichten nichts zu tun haben...

> If the new U.S. base does in fact exist, its location makes sense. It will put U.S. troops within easy striking distance of the Bolivian provinces of Santa Cruz and Tarija, home to the second largest gas reserves in South America. Bolivian business leaders interested in privatizing and exporting the country’s gas have spearheaded a move in these resource rich provinces for a secessionist referendum, which will take place on August 12th. If the region votes for autonomy, it’s likely the gas will be privatized, an unpopular plan that’s generated massive protests in the country since 2003. If new civil unrest occurs over the gas issue, the U.S. military will be in a strategic position to intervene, in part to protect the interests of U.S. energy corporations.

> die basis liegt am groessten erschlossenen suesswasser reservoir des chaco (ein gebiet, so gross wie westdeutschland) und ca hundert km noerdlich des zentralen flaechenschwerpunktes von suedamerika...

> U.S. military operations and assistance are nothing new in the region. However, the timing of these activities appears to be more than a coincidence. Bolivia is scheduled to have presidential election in December 2005 and leftist coca grower leader and congressman, Evo Morales may have a strong chance at winning. If Morales, or another candidate unpopular with the Bush administration, is elected, then the U.S. could be poised to disrupt Bolivia’s democratic process, as they did during the 2002 Venezuelan coup and the 2004 ousting of Haitian president Bertram Aristide.

> tja, die bolvianer haben einige us-geschaeftsinteressen verletzt...

> Regarding U.S. military activity in Paraguay, Bolivian Chancellor Armando Loayza said, "There is no specific information. Between Bolivia and Paraguay there is perfect harmony and cooperation…” However, Bolivian author and military analyst, Juan Ramon Quintana, believes the US military’s activities in Paraguay are a subject that concerns the entire region. "We should be very worried. It is a most negative sign, dramatic in the fact that there exists the possibility of intervention in strategic areas linked to energy and a regional project." (9)

> die perfekte harmony besteht aus zwei sandpisten (wie feldwege frueher), die die rund 1500 km grenze kreuzen. auf jeder seite ein oder zwei handvoll soldaten, und ca 10 bis 20 grenzueberschreitenden fahrzeugen (insgesammt) pro tag. ansonsten ist die grenze wegloser dornbusch.

> die pulverfoermigen produkte des nachbarlandes werden meistens mit kleinflugzeugen oben ueber die harmonie hinweg geflogen ;-))

> bei uns grassierte ein witz:

> wir werden den USA den krieg erklaeren! dann siegen die, und bezahlen fuer den aufbau dieses landes!

> und was machen wir, wenn wir siegen?

> ------

> wie man sieht, haben wir nicht gesiegt.

> gruss,detlef

> Antworten:

> - Re: @detlef: Neue große US Militärbasis in Nordost-Paraguay? IT Oma 15.8.2005 22:13 (1)
>   - Re: @detlef: Neue große US Militärbasis in Nordost-Paraguay? detlef 15.8.2005 23:10 (0)